Lista Consulting offers specialist skills and expert advice that can be tailored to meet individual project needs. We also work with our associates to offer a wide range of complementary skills that can be applied to large and small projects across Australia. Individually and together we have a lengthy track record of successfully achieving project outcomes in complex environments.

Margo Couldrey is the Director of Lista Consulting which she established in 2005, and is a former senior executive in the Australian National Training Authority (ANTA). Margo has had executive leadership experience across diverse policy areas including managing Commonwealth/State relations, working witIMG_0338h national committees to achieve policy reforms in the vocational education and training (VET) system and 10 years in the administration of human rights and anti-discrimination law.

She is a policy analyst and facilitator who specialises in national and state policy evaluations, developing and implementing regulatory reform, and stakeholder engagement and consultation. She has had significant experience advising on training system policy and practice, and strategies to lift workforce productivity and participation and investment in skills. Much of her current work occurs at the interface between the Commonwealth, States and Territories and industry. She has a reputation for being able to negotiate outcomes in a complex and diverse stakeholder environment.

Margo is also recognised for her expertise in strategic planning, assisting organisations to clarify their plans and objectives and she advises on good governance and strategies for effectively leading and managing organisational change.

She has a long term interest in the role that skills and learning play in strengthening regional Australia and has been appointed as a member of the Regional Development Australia Brisbane Committee.

Margo is also keen to see increased international skills recognition and mobility and promotes the contribution vocational education and training can make to economic and social development, particularly in developing countries. She was formerly the General Secretary of the International Vocational Education and Training Association (IVETA) and has presented at international VET conferences in Finland, Malaysia, Fiji and New Zealand as well as representing IVETA at conferences in the USA and South Africa.


Nick McShane is Managing Director of Stenning and Associates and has over 30 years of experience in public policy. Nick is a specialist in government microeconomic and regulatory reform activity and in the national vocational education and training system. His experience and expertise in VET and economic issues has seen him involved in a range of workforce analysis and profiling, workforce development and skills shortage related projects.

Nick has provided strategic and business analysis advice to public and private sector clients across a wide range of national and state based projects. This has included extensive use of skills relating to project direction and management, research and analysis, project evaluation, cost benefit analysis, stakeholder consultation and the formulation of strategic policy, legislative or service improvement advice.

He is recognised for his understanding of Commonwealth/State relations and his skill in developing clear policy options that take diverse stakeholder perspectives into account.

Nick and Margo have worked together over many years to develop policy and negotiate with stakeholders on significant national regulatory reforms and to develop organisational strategies and achievable implementation plans.

Paul Byrne OAM, Principal of Paul G Byrne Consulting; is chair of the Board of Artibus Innovation, a Skills Service Organisation currently serving the construction and property services industries. A former Chief Executive Officer of the Australian National Training Authority, he has also been a Board member of the Australian Maritime College, the Paul Byrne 001Victorian TAFE Development Centre, the national Innovation and Business Industry Skills Council and the Tasmanian Qualifications Authority. He was also Chair of the Board of the former TAFE Tasmania.

In his consultancy role, he has been involved in a range of reviews of aspects of national vocational education and training policy and of state industry advisory arrangements and has completed several review reports including of the governance arrangements for the Australian Qualifications Framework and of the Trades Recognition Australia legislation and skills recognition services, with a focus on the skilled trades.

Paul is recognised for his expert knowledge of the VET system in Australia and its evolution, and also has extensive international experience advising and assisting in the development of comparable VET systems.

Mitch Cleary is one of two Directors of Precision Consultancy, a Melbourne-based company established in 1992 with a focus on work-based learning and organisational development. Mitch is one of Australia’s leading experts on competency based training and has worked on many national projects to develop or revise national competencies in a range of sectors, including training and assessment, business services, health and community services, mining and civil construction and government. She has led many projects to develop resources that support the implementation of competency frameworks in industries and organisations.

Mitch has also worked extensively and successfully over the past 10 years with most of the former national Industry Skills Councils and current Skills Service Organisations as well as consulting with industry stakeholders and subject matter experts across a range of fields. She has worked on a number of projects in relation to qualification design, including building qualification frameworks in Singapore.

Together Mitch and Margo have long-established and positive working relationships with key stakeholders across governments, industry, and training providers at national and jurisdictional levels in the VET sector.  They have worked together to develop the Training Package Standards and policy.